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<title>Metaphor Remediation: A New Ecology for the City : Responses</title>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Metaphor Remediation: A New Ecology for the City"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[well done; this means humans can find solutions for our environmental crises.]]></description>
	<author>tarig khalid</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/metaphor-remediation-a-new-ecology-for-the-city/10637/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-02-27T15:48:23-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Metaphor Remediation: A New Ecology for the City"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[great pic of the evolving railway!]]></description>
	<author>danrugg</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/metaphor-remediation-a-new-ecology-for-the-city/10637/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2009-11-25T01:00:54-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Metaphor Remediation: A New Ecology for the City"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Excellent Article Andrew! This is exactly the type of landscape architecture I hope to do professionally someday. Like you said..once city people start making intimate connections between their dialy lives and their natural environment...through exposure & interaction...they will come to understand humanity's relationship with it, that our wellbeing is just a sub-funtion of our environment's wellbeing.that we are a part of it and not opposed to it... their inherent appreciation for a healthy environment will prevail!]]></description>
	<author>danrugg</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/metaphor-remediation-a-new-ecology-for-the-city/10637/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2009-11-25T00:58:22-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Metaphor Remediation: A New Ecology for the City"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[very nice imaginary article]]></description>
	<author>website design New York City</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/metaphor-remediation-a-new-ecology-for-the-city/10637/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2009-11-16T02:34:53-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Metaphor Remediation: A New Ecology for the City"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[I agree with faslanyc's point regarding the metaphor.  Though it is nice to think about and certainly probable that such developments as the high line would raise awareness to some degree in the public, it is hard to conceive of such a paradigm shift in a society's relationship to ecology coming from what amounts to a single awkwardly sized park.<br />
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"The metaphorical implications are clear: just as the landscape of the High Line would be unfixed, so would we-the-public be unfixed â newly awakened to the urban ecology hiding in plain sight."<br />
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For me it comes back to the idea of biophilia (thank you David Stairs).  It is not hard to realize that human beings have an inborn desire for nature, regardless of what historical trends towards urbanization might seem to say, and this makes attempting to reformat nature to fit into an urban environment seem pointless and obtuse to me.  To quote Dr. Manhattan, it's "as nourishing to the intellect as photograph of oxygen to a drowning man." Some amount of good-intention is there, but there's no real hope of providing the kind of interaction with nature that would drive a shift in people's thinking similar to what Andy is discussing here.<br />
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Which is not to say that I hate the two projects he discusses.  The high line is at least interesting, and the Port Lands is a step in the right direction, if perhaps a little heavy handed.]]></description>
	<author>Chris Roy</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/metaphor-remediation-a-new-ecology-for-the-city/10637/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2009-10-28T00:59:27-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Metaphor Remediation: A New Ecology for the City"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Why the fascination with metaphor in the piece?  It is off base and proves distracting to the few cogent insights and arguments (such as the difference in approach between ecologists and landscape architects, though some ecologists may beg to differ).  In fact, it seems that MVVA is trying to deconstruct the axiom of landscape as metaphor, and thank god, because metaphor is limited simply because it is defining.  And once you define what something is, you have also defined the myriad other things that it is not.<br />
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And how dare you compare the Field Operations scheme to the TerraGRAM scheme?  Field Operations used similar words, but their entry, and eventual built project, was the absolute antithesis of your #12 citation.  It's a beautiful place, but is backward conceptually.]]></description>
	<author>faslanyc</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/metaphor-remediation-a-new-ecology-for-the-city/10637/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2009-10-21T13:05:23-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Metaphor Remediation: A New Ecology for the City"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Chris brings up a good point.  And i think this article starts out with an assumption that is fundamentally flawed.  The second paragraph states the author's fascination with the "efficiency of cities".  Cities are not necessarily more efficient.  They are more robust, they have more inertia.  In a big city, you get more traffic, more taxes, more infrastructure, longer lines, more beaurocracy (in addition to all the good 'mores').  It is easier to streamline processes and make them for a singular purpose outside of concentrated areas.  <br />
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Cities are robust and resilient (fore example, not based economically on a single crop/factory) and this is a good basis for the argument, not efficiency.  Many ecosystems are also robust and resilient (a forest as opposed to a monoculture crop).  This is a good argument for cities and could perhaps help to reconcile the author's points to Chris' good counterpoint.  <br />
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The beginning of the article was extremely sentimental, as well.  And ironic.]]></description>
	<author>brian</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/metaphor-remediation-a-new-ecology-for-the-city/10637/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2009-10-19T10:31:44-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Metaphor Remediation: A New Ecology for the City"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[My mind keeps returning to an adage I've heard many times: "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."  Einstein said that a while ago, but I think it remains very important to consider.  <br />
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It was design that created modern cities, and one principle of it, efficiency, that pushed them well past sustainable levels in the first place.  It was design (albeit poor design) that displaced nature for parking garage and ungainly skyscraper.  One can argue that what we do now is smarter, more informed, more aware, but cities like Los Angeles, a thoroughly modern city, are inelegantly large and traffic-choked.<br />
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Victor Papanek has argued that such problems as traffic congestion arise because planners think too much about solving the existing problem and less about what makes the problem worth solving.  I tend to agree with him.  The corollary is that, if nature is so crucial to healthy human habitation and if ecological awareness is key to our survival, we should really examine the trend toward urbanization and decide if we shouldn't just take a step backwards and reintegrate society into nature rather than the other way around.  It's not necessarily an anti-urban bias, just one pro-nature stance.]]></description>
	<author>Chris Roy</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/metaphor-remediation-a-new-ecology-for-the-city/10637/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2009-10-14T01:27:37-05:00</dc:date>
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