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<title>Paper Architecture, Emerging Urbanism : Responses</title>
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<dc:date>2011-07-02T15:49:15-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Paper Architecture, Emerging Urbanism"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed Tim's bringing together previous and current visionary ideas -- indeed this 'down time' in the profession can have at least this one good aspect in its creation of time for envisioning and contemplation.  My take on the article, as Tom Low said, is that these design approaches (heterogenous in a good way) exemplified interestingly enough by two Penn landscape professors (Ian McHarg and Jim Corner) may function as a more unified left brain and right brain approach to the vital concerns for urbanism in the following decade.]]></description>
	<author>Ralph Muldrow</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/paper-architecture-emerging-urbanism/12684/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-07-02T15:49:15-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Paper Architecture, Emerging Urbanism"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Thomas Low's comment captures both the intent and goal of my essay: to bring together the best techniques (and intentions) of both Landscape Urbanism and New Urbanism to create a productive synthesis for both practice and pedagogy - an approach that we might just call urbanism.  <br />
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Also in response to the saber rattling of the proponents of New Urbanism above:  I agree that questions of urbanism need to be disentangled from architectural language.  John Hooker will be interested to know that my firm designs both "contemporary" and "traditional-looking" multifamily housing depending on the specific neighborhood context and target market. Our loft-style projects tend to be in former industrial areas, for example. Our infill projects in existing residential neighborhoods are designed to look retroactively inevitable.<br />
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Our real point of difference may be our respective opinions about the variety of buildings that make up the existing city. I strongly believe that any building constructed of quality materials is worth preserving and rehabilitating - even the mid-century modernist buildings that populate the cities of the Northeast. I suspect that many proponents of New Urbanism would prefer to wish away the messy heterogeneity of the contemporary city for a more consistent model of urbanism.  Your paradigms and techniques are spot-on but your absolutism is a bore (with apologies to Venturi) and tends toward an inflexible strategy of engagement with the diverse voices of existing urban neighborhoods. ]]></description>
	<author>Tim Love</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/paper-architecture-emerging-urbanism/12684/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-04-29T12:32:44-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Paper Architecture, Emerging Urbanism"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[interesting article.  thank you.  i appreciate the critique of all the speculative crap going on.<br />
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only two points, one of which is perhaps only semantic.  It seems instead of "paper architecture" you could have referred to the trend of the last decade as "digital architecture".  The connection is clear in your essay, just is bit of word play that would drive home the difference in the production and subsequent publication between the speculative architecture of two eras.  <br />
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second, i don't landscape urbanists ignore the fundamental role of the building.  They <i>tend</i> to ignore the fundamental role of <b>space</b>, of which buildings are only one type.  Landscape spaces also do not figure prominently in their proposals, but rather vectors, patterns, forces, etc.  I imagine that will change as they actually win commissions (which the prominent ones have begun doing in the last 5 years) and start figuring that part out.  And just for the record, i like what the LU's bring to the table, it's just not the apex of human thought, as some might have you believe.  <br />
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Nor is new urbanism (zing!).  kidding.  they have great points also.]]></description>
	<author>faslanyc</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/paper-architecture-emerging-urbanism/12684/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-04-22T20:23:04-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Paper Architecture, Emerging Urbanism"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[You bring up an interesting point. We need some form of order, but which urbanism? Donât discount the New Urbanism. <br />
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The experience of chaos discredits Everyday Urbanism. The conceptually hoary, expensive and dysfunctional megastructure almost never survives contact with reality. (Architecture Research Officeâs_ City of the Future_ is Yona Friedmanâs _La Ville Spatiale,_ wetted and pre-discredited by Harvardâs One Western Avenue.) Landscape Urbanismâs overarching green order offers exciting possibilities for multilevel, fluid spaces. Unfortunately, each of the infrastructural surfaces of Landscape Urbanism is idiosyncratic, and usually unjustified even by transitory excitement. And probably only Dubai can afford gratuitous carapaces, screens, wraps, and manipulated ground surfaces. <br />
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We need an urbanism that balances architectsâ creativity with orderâand that offers vibrancy, privacy, and Sunday strolls unmolested by flying ground planes. The search immediately turns up New Urbanism. While most other âismsâ die by the post-occupancy evaluation, _omnivorous_ New Urbanism lives by it. Donât worry that it will not absorb good ideas. Worry that it will.<br />
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That is why I am a card-carrying (when I can find it) New Urbanist.<br />
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	<author>Bruce F. Donnelly</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/paper-architecture-emerging-urbanism/12684/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-04-22T11:17:59-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Paper Architecture, Emerging Urbanism"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Landscape Urbanism (and Light Imprint New Urbanism) may be really two cultures converging at the right time â Design with Nature and New Urbanism in the 21st Century -  i.e. Ian McHarg and Andres Duany timed for climate change, the new economy, and crave for community -  equals LU (LINU).<br />
I hope more of us will be proactively writing about it, presenting case studies, inviting speakers on the subject, challenging LU to do it well, ultimately framing it in the reality of what we do want/like?  The writing right now reminds me of the early academic writers of New Urbanism a quarter century ago.   I think this is more exciting than problematic. I bet many others do too.  ]]></description>
	<author>Thomas E. low</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/paper-architecture-emerging-urbanism/12684/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-04-22T11:02:22-05:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[I respect the historical intellectual and aesthetic arrogance of the proud professionals of New England, but Mr. Love's love of language and his interpretation of the history of architectural education leave me confused.<br />
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From my experience, physical urban design started dropping from the curriculum 50 years ago, not 20, when land use zoning and policy planning rose to promenance to address social and economic issues. Planning became more public administration than design - except for the success of civil engineers in creating inhumane open space.<br />
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Mr. Love has an unfortunate habit of referring to all spaces between urban and perhaps suburban buildings as simply "open space'. Once upon a time, civic spaces were actual places like farms, gardens, parks, plazas, courts, playgrounds, avenues, boulevards and the other 90% of vacant land popularly known for the past 80 years as arterials and parking lots devoted to solely cars.<br />
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Finally, his contempt for "New Urbanism" repeats history.<br />
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He writes parenthetically, "While New Urbanism offers an impressively overarching framework, its proponents are openly hostile to contemporary modes of architectural expression, making the entire approach off-limits to serious discourse."<br />
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I imagine I could find this criticism of Modernism from an critical essay in the 1920s:<br />
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"While the International Style offers an impressively overarching framework, its proponents are openly hostile to traditional and classical modes of architectural expression and civic art, making the entire approach off-limits to serious discourse."<br />
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	<author>John Hooker</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/paper-architecture-emerging-urbanism/12684/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-04-21T18:37:34-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Paper Architecture, Emerging Urbanism"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA["Yet despite the many strengths of landscape urbanism as new model for relevant practice, there is something missing: the fundamental role of the building as a city-making component."  Between the building and the landscape, from hamlet to city, looms urbanism, the forms and patterns created by and between buildings, and their spatial relationship to the adjoining thoroughfares, plazas, parks and other landscape-able space.  The compact medina, lacking street trees or swales and surrounded by fields, is no less resilient because of it's intense urbanism.<br />
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PS: anyone who thinks of the New Urbanism as limited to traditional architecture misunderstands both the principles and the practice that draw from a diversity of styles and forms, but always respectful of the context.]]></description>
	<author>Steve Coyle, AIA LEED</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/paper-architecture-emerging-urbanism/12684/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-04-21T17:43:25-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Paper Architecture, Emerging Urbanism"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[<br />
The author is strongly implying that New Urbanism does not engage ecological and environmental issues. This is simply not the case. Just as NU is a "comprehensive practice-model" for integrating architecture into the city, it is equally a practice-model for integrating landscape into the city (not to mention the region). The organizing framework of New Urbanist zoning/design codes is the (locally calibrated) rural-to-urban transect, a context-based approach that protects urban character from the threat of one-size-fits-all ruralization of the city arising from conventional stormwater regulations and random acts of biophilia. The non-profit Center for Transect Studies http://www.transect.org/ provides open source downloads of numerous transect-based modules from Landscape to Riparian Buffers to Natural Drainage to Light Imprint.  These techniques allow us to bring nature into the city and manage stormwater in ways that do not (1) create suburban setbacks that would cause a creeping sprawl effect, compromise retail, interrupt street connectivity, and dissolve the spatial enclosure of the "outdoor room"; (2) require stormwater to be managed onsite which again creates anti-urban setbacks or (3) remove people from the activity centers of the street and square by luring them to rooftop gardens and meandering creekbeds. The latter have their place, to be sure, but if they degrade the very walkability that already makes compact development so environmentally responsible, then they will have done more harm than good. ]]></description>
	<author>Sandy Sorlien</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/paper-architecture-emerging-urbanism/12684/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-04-21T15:57:31-05:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[What exactly is meant by "progressive"? In an article that steers clear of social concerns - like diversity, inclusiveness, justice, access, engagement, community, equity - isn't the co-opting of terms like "progressive" rather hostile?]]></description>
	<author>Emily Talen</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/paper-architecture-emerging-urbanism/12684/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-04-21T15:02:26-05:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[I still believe that the emphasis given to eco-friendly solutions in this article should be appropriately endorsed in most developed countries.<br />
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	<author>Canada Flowers</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/paper-architecture-emerging-urbanism/12684/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-04-18T02:24:14-05:00</dc:date>
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