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<title>Borderland/Borderama/Detroit: Part 1 : Responses</title>
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<dc:date>2010-07-20T11:53:43-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Borderland/Borderama/Detroit: Part 1"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Greg's comments above hit the nail right on the head....Detroit's condition is its own undoing and Henry Ford's legacy .....an affordable car for every American.  European cities are great cultural centers not only because cars are so less commonplace and more expensive to own and operate,  but because those cities have their own extensive public transportation systems.  That's one reason why New York doesn't neatly fit into Herron's theories about American Urbanism.  Detroit (still my home) continues to change (I won't say die) so dramtically because we still can't even get the most minimal mass transit system going.  The racial issues are a result, not a cause.  When you feel you  no longer have a positive effect on changing those negative things around you, it's very easy to simply move away..,.and lord only knows, most Americans always want the easy way out. No, Detroit may never have 1.8 million citizens again, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's dying.  The majority of Detroiters (and their families and offspring) who "left" it in the last 50 years are still within easy driving distance.  America is still a relatively very young country and ALL of it's cities are constantly changing: the direction of that change is for us to decide and work toward - or get in our cars and run away from. ]]></description>
	<author>Ian Leuytenhal</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/borderland-borderama-detroit-part-1/13778/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-07-20T11:53:43-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Borderland/Borderama/Detroit: Part 1"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[This was an excellent and thought-provoking essay.  I think it captures exactly my feelings about Detroit's rise and fall, and the American public's fascination with it.  I'm a native Detroiter who moved away as a teen nearly 30 years ago.  However, I'm an urban planner who chose this career largely because of my early experiences in Detroit -- I wanted to work in a field where I could help make cities better.<br />
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There are so many things I see here with which I agree.  The city/not city dichotomy, where devastation and revitalization exist virtually side by side; our national fascination with the "Borderama" aspects of Detroit's decline; the role of America's extreme individualism in the hollowing out of a once great city.<br />
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I have long believed that Detroit has become America's Whipping Boy, upheld as America's Urban Dystopia(tm) and a frightening reminder to other cities of what not to become.  America will not let Detroit escape from this perception, and Detroit will not recover until it can. <br />
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I also agree with your view on how American individualism has crippled Detroit.  I've read Toqueville, but I was astonished at how relevant his quote on individualism is today's Detroit.  We Americans like only enough "society" to take us to some point of comfort, and then we are ready to discard the elements that got us there.  At some point in its history, Detroit became disposable in the minds of those who moved away.  Is there any metropolitan area with a wider gulf between city and suburb, or black and white?  Or national and local perspective on its present condition?<br />
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Lastly, I agree with your point that America has never been in the business of making enduring cities.  In 1890, Detroit was a city on the Great Lakes that was similar in size, economy and (likely) culture to Milwaukee.  The explosion of the auto industry destroyed that legacy and started a new one.  I wonder if Detroit's decline is simply its return to its natural place in the urban hierarchy.]]></description>
	<author>Pete Saunders</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/borderland-borderama-detroit-part-1/13778/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-07-18T17:54:07-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Borderland/Borderama/Detroit: Part 1"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Detroit has always been about making a buck. No more, or less.<br />
The End.<br />
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Oh yeah, Re-elect Pingree!]]></description>
	<author>Danny Bassett</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/borderland-borderama-detroit-part-1/13778/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-07-09T00:13:11-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Borderland/Borderama/Detroit: Part 1"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[I think you missed a huge point here... <br />
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Detroit lived by the auto industry, and the urban decline that the automobile brought on other cities is most clearly evident there. The very cars made in Detroit made possible, in partnership with auto friendly planning initiatives, the very exodus that started the downward spiral. That is why it began 10- 15 years prior to any race riots. It was the Eisenhower Federal Interstate System and Mercury's Turnpike Cruiser that dealt a fatal blow to urban life both in Detrioit, and around the country. <br />
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The racial inequality in Detroit and other cities was only made worse when those that could afford to leave the city did, and and they went as far as their dollars could get them. It seems poetic justice, to me, that the Motor City suffered by far the worst effects of its own invention.  ]]></description>
	<author>Greg</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/borderland-borderama-detroit-part-1/13778/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-07-08T14:25:44-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Borderland/Borderama/Detroit: Part 1"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[What really contributed to Detroit decline greed, racist, poor government sadly all of the above but the important question is how can we stop the decline we all remember what this city was,  how can we stop the negative comments, wasteful administrations, substandard education and lack of jobs?
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	<author>ernestine christ</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/borderland-borderama-detroit-part-1/13778/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-07-08T13:44:08-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Borderland/Borderama/Detroit: Part 1"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[I was born and raised in the city of Detroit.  I remember when it was not only a city but a fairly safe one.  I also remember the time of the "great exodus", when it became no longer safe to live in the city.  We all gaged our success by how far away we could move.  The families who moved all the way to Sterling Heights must be doing very well.<br />
I was 10 yrs old when we left.  I remember thinking to myself and might have even asked out loud, "why can't white people live in Detroit anymore".  It sounds so racist but it was an honest question coming from a 9 yr old kid.  It was a very confusing time for me.  <br />
I've always thought of Detroit as my hometown and I love what that city represents for me. <br />
I know that good will come out of this crumbling of Detroit, even if nothing more than to have people travel here merely to get a look at the former great city. It will make them wonder at how far we have fallen.  Maybe that will be our rebirth?]]></description>
	<author>Beth Miller</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/borderland-borderama-detroit-part-1/13778/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-07-08T07:33:20-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Borderland/Borderama/Detroit: Part 1"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Reading this article that no one intended to remain in Detroit surprised me.  I was third generation Detroiter, my grandfather started working at Fisher Body when he was 12 and ended up managing the plant.  It would never have occurred to him, my mother or me to leave Detroit because that was HOME.  That's where my mother lived, my siblings lived, my doctor was, my grocer and church were.  <br />
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In the late 80s, my job presented opportunity for advancement which required my moving.  It was a hard decision to make. I bristled for the first six months in Huntington Beach, CA when Californians would exclaim, "Wow, I bet you're happy to be in CA" when I told them proudly I was from Detroit.  And I missed Detroit terribly for about six months.  When I saw lovely pansies blossoming in January, I suddenly "got it".  Detroit turns black & white on Nov 1 each year, and we don't get technicolor back until May 1.  <br />
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NOW, I get why Californians are so smug.  I am that way, too.  I couldn't talk mother into leaving--"it's where I live, Dear."  I dearly miss Sanders, and buy their hot fudge sauce in the mail.  There are no coney islands like Detroit has, so I live without them, too.  And it was fun to go to Windsor for lunch or dinner, and then come back to the US.  I am a better person for having Detroit in my history.  But I'm not leaving California, not even for a coney island and a hot fudge sundea.]]></description>
	<author>Wendy Jordan Fields</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/borderland-borderama-detroit-part-1/13778/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-07-07T18:44:25-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Borderland/Borderama/Detroit: Part 1"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Great article. I've been fascinated with the City for some time. It's a modern devolution that is unparalleled in my experience. While we often feel sad when we see nature being destroyed for new developments, in this case nature is making it's way back and it's as scary a sight as any we have seen.  It reminds us of a creeping death.<br />
I see in your photos those new concrete ramps with red inserts that appear to be for the handicapped. If you go deep into some areas they have installed these new corner ramps where the sidewalks are invisible and no houses exist! A great example of inept government. People are living in a total economic and social ruin and the government gives them new sidewalk ramps to meet some standard of accessibility! Based on that alone I expect the decline of the city will continue without interruption. Very sad and very scary. The band plays on as the ship sinks below the waves. <br />
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	<author>Tom</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/borderland-borderama-detroit-part-1/13778/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-07-07T14:53:04-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Borderland/Borderama/Detroit: Part 1"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Excellent, looking forward to the next installments. I went on field trips to Fisher Body as a kid. I rode in my Grandpa's Cadillac to the Detroit Auto Show. Detroit was the big city. It is truly incredible what happened / is happening in Detroit.<br />
I recommend detroitblog.org for great articles and photography of the continuing story of Detroit.]]></description>
	<author>Bandy Lou</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/borderland-borderama-detroit-part-1/13778/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2010-07-07T14:47:00-05:00</dc:date>
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