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<title>Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California : Responses</title>
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<dc:date>2012-11-12T15:32:32-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Steve, great to hear this is useful for your studies. You might also appreciate Austin Troy's article on Places, "Thirsty City," which discusses the California Aqueduct and Central Arizona Project (and briefly the L.A. Aqueduct.)<br />
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http://places.designobserver.com/feature/the-very-hungry-city/32058/<br />
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Note that Barry Lehrman graciously granted permission to reproduce his photo of halobacteria on the Owens Lake playa, above, and we've linked to his blog.<br />
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âEds.]]></description>
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	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2012-11-12T15:32:32-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[I am a student at Cal Poly Pomona investigating the LA Acqueduct as part of Professor Barry Lehrman's "Aqueduct Futures Project". Thank you for this as I found your writing very informative. Also, as fellow academic, you may be interested in my professor's blog http://infrascapedesign.wordpress.com/]]></description>
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	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2012-11-09T12:15:37-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Dear Karen,<br />
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Reading your story has made me feel the pain you felt at the time of your writing. It is sad how man's selfishness has turned against him! God was never stupid when he decided to create things the way they are but at the rate at which man is destroying the environment, little does he know that the environment can give him a taste of his own medicine.<br />
I don't know if you believe in God, but Owens' aftermaths are a sign of God's anger.<br />
Anyway, one lays ones bed, so one can sleep in it... Right?<br />
I hope the beauty of that land will return someday when the regional people believe they have had enough of Owen's lashes. Thanks.]]></description>
	<author>Lanny Kimbowa</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-08-15T09:25:25-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Great essay!<br />
<br />
Mr. Schade is obviously proud of the progress that has been made, perhaps deservedly so; but nothing in his comment appears to substantiate the assertion that the article contains incorrect information.  Whether it is misleading or not seems to depend on how you view this whole situation: as an ongoing environmental (and cultural) mess, or as a partly succesful remedial effort.  Both may be true.<br />
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What I wonder is, if the cost of replacing 1/3 of the Owens River water is $24 million/yr, could DWP replace the whole thing for $75M/yr?  And thereby avoid all the upcoming mitigation costs, plus the $18M/yr already being spent on maintenance... Seems like this option might be cheaper, and it would surely be far better environmentally.  ]]></description>
	<author>Tim in Albion</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-02-11T21:40:15-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Where do I start? There is so much about this article that is misleading and incorrect. I am the Air Pollution Control Officer for the Great Basin Air Pollution Control District and have worked on the Owens Lake dust problem for more than 20 years. I would claim to know more about this problem than anyone, yet no one from my agency was contacted by Ms. Piper for this essay. <br />
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Ms. Piper misrepresents the decade of research that led to three proven dust control techniques. She seems to indicate that the dust control area is killing many birds (20 birds out of over 40,000 is negligible). She is also apparently unaware of the current effort supported by many local groups and the LADWP to implement an Owens Lake Master Plan that will guarantee perpetual protection of the incredible habitat that has been created, while improving water use and operational efficiencies.<br />
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Ms. Piper criticizes the cost of the project. When all costs are taken into consideration (construction, operation and water) the cost to control dust from Owens Lake is about $1,000 per ton. This is less than one-tenth the cost to control PM-10 in Los Angeles and the San Joaquin Valley. It is a costly project, but we started with a lot of dust - about 80,000 tons per year.<br />
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Finally, from a dust control standpoint, air pollution levels have been reduced by about 90 percent since the start of construction in 2000. We estimate the area will meet the federal air quality standard in about 5 years.<br />
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I am disappointed in this article.]]></description>
	<author>Ted Schade</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-28T13:42:20-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[I have always been hypnotized by the starkness and beauty of the Owens Valley and the Sierras. That whole Hwy 395 corridor from Mojave through Bridgeport is such a vivid contrast of landscapes, Owens Dry lake bed being a prominent part of it. It is really sad that we can so enormously impact an area, supposedly for the "Greatest Good", and ultimately create a toxic environment that can kill, not only wildlife, but humans as well. Money is and always will be the driving factor in human endeavors - we are afflicted with a terminal disease - drowning out the voices of those calling for restraint and assessment before movement. ]]></description>
	<author>Bill</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-28T10:31:23-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this very informative article. This is what happens when humanity keeps in mind the end result (usually fueled by greed) without assessing the risks or morality of the means. 

So tragic for the ecosystems destroyed and the life species (including humans) affected. Disregard and disrespect towards any part of life is always a recipe for disaster. ]]></description>
	<author>Jennifer Jones</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-27T23:15:33-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Facing Reality can sometimes be a bit difficult.<br />
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Had heard of Owens Lake for years, but had never heard the whole story.  Gives a whole new take on the Aqueduct!!<br />
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As I am worried about Biodiversity on Earth???<br />
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I live in the Antelope Valley -- and there are also lakes here that are totally dried up now ... can't help but wondering -- what about shifting the river back so we have a restored lake?  I am worried about the really long-term effects of what was done to water Los Angeles with the Owens River water .... and someone wants to build more developments in L.A. County????  Wonder where the water permits would come from????]]></description>
	<author>Ruth Sandra</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-27T23:03:35-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Seems the Kelso and South Fork Kern River Valleys are the next conquest targets of LADWP. Too bad that developers still are granted the right to develop more desert land without regard to whether water is available. Wildlife and wildlands always seem to take it in the shorts with the short-sighted greedy always coming out on top. ]]></description>
	<author>MAS</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-27T17:50:30-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[We have visited Owens 'Lake' over a span of about 40 years. For the last several years we've noticed that some water seems to be present. This article shines a still dim light over what ones was a LAKE! Let's hope that L.A. finds alternate sources of water for its thirsty residents. Desalinated sea water, I think, is the only feasable means to perpetuate the existence of people in this area. Over the long run, eventually the birds and other wildlife will prevail.............!Hans                                                                             ]]></description>
	<author>hans portegies</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-27T17:38:27-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Brilliant article. Sucked me in and even brought out a few tears. Thank you for writing it.  ]]></description>
	<author>Jennifer</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-27T17:33:57-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Always great to see people talking about Owens. Not sure if you're aware that Audubon and other conservation groups are talking with DWP about creating more lasting protection for the habitat around Owens. And this process has made a lot of people hopeful that the birds will continue to have a place there. Let us know if you want to learn more.]]></description>
	<author>Garrison</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-27T16:37:22-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[I grew up near Owens Lake too.  LA is always looking for more and more water even from the local ground supply now.  What it should be doing is regulating or metering water used for wasteful landscaping and pursue alternative sources of water such a recycling.  The tech is out there and it's probably less expensive in the long run than this travesty.]]></description>
	<author>tlc</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-27T04:19:42-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Nothing matters except L.A.'s needs. Just ask them, they will tell you so.  Sad that the lake was lost, and still to this day L.A. is keeping them under their thumb. ]]></description>
	<author>Riley</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-26T09:51:58-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[David Zetland,<br />
<br />
Thanks for noting this We made the change. Looking forward to your book!<br />
<br />
Nancy]]></description>
	<author>Nancy Levinson</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-25T18:28:20-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Good story. The rate hike was to electricity, not water...<br />
<br />
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_15017747?source=pkg]]></description>
	<author>David Zetland</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-25T10:42:48-05:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[Fascinating story well told. It depicts how we humans can really mess things up. Not an uncommon story unfortunately]]></description>
	<author>damian</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-25T08:47:50-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[I remember driving through this area on my way to Death Valley. I wondered how such a huge lake surrounded by mountains could be dry. I had assumed it was due to the same process that made Badwater Basin dry and salty.  Thank you for enlightening me.]]></description>
	<author>Kay</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-24T19:30:03-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Dreams and Dust in Owens Lake, California"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[This is a great article, fascinating and heartbreaking. I knew when I shot the Keeler Beach sign that there had to be some backstory there (beyond the part we all know, about LA stealing the water); thanks for filling in the gaps.  ]]></description>
	<author>Tom Hilton</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/dreams-dust-and-birds-the-trashing-of-owens-lake/23328/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-01-24T18:22:39-05:00</dc:date>
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