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<title>Lunch with the Critics: Cronocaos, by OMA/Rem Koolhaas : Responses</title>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Lunch with the Critics: Cronocaos, by OMA/Rem Koolhaas"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Incoherent ramblings from a provacateur architect whose special talent (besides self-promotion) is the creation of buildings at once noxious and obnoxious.]]></description>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/cronocaos/27628/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-06-12T15:24:48-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Lunch with the Critics: Cronocaos, by OMA/Rem Koolhaas"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[I only have this debate/review and Ouroussoff's review to go by (not seeing the exhibit), but my feeling is Koolhaas is suffering a case of architectural generation gap.  His chosen palette is the built public realm, and this complicated fabric and non-linear mess is at odds with his social, intellectual and aesthetic agenda.  Yes, much late mid-century architecture was an experiment and many associate stark, 60's work with architecture's famous social failures.  But should it all come down by association with Pruitt Igoe and Cabrini Green?  If any Albert Speer buildings were extant, should they have been ripped down too?  (I might be extending myself a wee bit there).<br />
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I agree with Lange about our generation not understanding or appreciating Brutalism, but instead recognizing it is worth preserving as an artifact of our social and built history.  We don't melt down every old LP of artists now out of fashion, now that we have newer music, right?  We save enough of what we think is important.  An interesting parallel is happening in Baltimore in front of our eyes - the mid-century "Formstone" phenomenon of 2" faux-stone facades over original red brick is being removed en masse throughout our old row-house neighborhoods.  (See Concrete Castles the documentary or Tin Men for a fun swipe at 50's Baltimore Formstone salesmen).  Brick is back in style, of course, but should we allow every single Formstone facade to come down?  How do we convince a private owner of a "significant" Formstone-clad home to preserve this piece of folk/architecture/social history?  Koolhaas may want to convince the public otherwise, but I believe even the bizarre Formstone facades will be missed if we don't have the vision to preserve some of them now.]]></description>
	<author>Mick Ricereto</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/cronocaos/27628/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-06-06T20:31:06-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Lunch with the Critics: Cronocaos, by OMA/Rem Koolhaas"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[@Mark - Yep, I know about the matrix. Someone else beat me to it. ]]></description>
	<author>Justin Davidson</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/cronocaos/27628/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-06-06T10:25:42-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Lunch with the Critics: Cronocaos, by OMA/Rem Koolhaas"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[i went to this show on the night it was free, and, boy, was this a gigantic steaming mound of mumbo jumbo.  the same things that rem was going on about in 1996 when he first started his rise to popularity/trendiness and, after many cheaply made projects later, he is still on the same bruce mau design looking nonsense?  you would think a new generation of young fools would not take the bait.]]></description>
	<author>gretchen</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/cronocaos/27628/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-06-06T10:21:40-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Lunch with the Critics: Cronocaos, by OMA/Rem Koolhaas"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[justin: thanks for reading. i'm not sure alexandra and i (and you) are that far apart on this one, but it seems like you and your editors might be, at least according to the highbrow and brilliant quadrant of this week's approval matrix....<br />
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http://nymag.com/arts/all/approvalmatrix/approval-matrix-2011-6-13/<br />
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perhaps with rem you need a graph where brilliant and despicable are not at opposites.<br />
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-mark<br />
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	<author>mark lamster</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/cronocaos/27628/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-06-06T09:26:22-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "Lunch with the Critics: Cronocaos, by OMA/Rem Koolhaas"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[I'm definitely with Alexandra on this one. Among the rhetorical turd nuggets in the show: "Can dilapidation be preserved?" Um, like at the Colosseum? or Western ghost towns? Yes of course it can! Koolhaas alternates between gnomic overstatements of the obvious and disingenuous conflations. How can you take seriously a prophet who jams the protection of the Everglades under the same preservationist rubric as gussying up an old stone house and turning it into a B & B, or reversing 50 years of decay at the (unprotected) UN buildings? What unified theory could possibly account for all three? And what principle makes it cogent to fulminate against preservation in one breath and bemoan the destruction of the modernist (or brutalist) legacy in the next? That's not being provocative - just intellectually dishonest. ]]></description>
	<author>Justin Davidson</author>
	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/cronocaos/27628/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2011-06-03T13:19:20-05:00</dc:date>
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