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<title>The Very Hungry City: The California State Water Project and Central Arizona Project : Responses</title>
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<dc:date>2012-02-14T12:55:24-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "The Very Hungry City: The California State Water Project and Central Arizona Project"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[Nice try Mr. Troy.  But close is for the game of horseshoes. Are you a power engineer or did you talk to any power engineers?  <br />
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You can't isolate the California Aqueduct and how much it costs in energy to ship water to Southern California.  You have to include the other end of they system - the Colorado River Aqueduct.  They form a system.  <br />
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Also you don't seem to generate any numbers for a wet years versus a dry year.  During the California Energy Crisis of 2001 the California Aqueduct was spinning huge amounts to hydroelectric power. Not coincidence that 2001 Southern California took its maximum allocation of water from the State Water Project.  <br />
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Also you failed to say that the Coachella - All American Canals that take Colorado River water to farmers in Imperial County flows by gravity almost to the same place that the Colorado River Aqueduct does near Palm Springs BUT WITHOUT THE POWER COSTS.  <br />
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Selling hydropower to cities helps pay off water facilities. The most famous is Hoover Dam.  The Colorado River Aqueduct route was designed to go over high mountains that required pumping so that Los Angeles would have to buy power from Hoover to pay off the dam (not just the hydro turbines).  <br />
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Next time don't call a plumber - call a power engineer.   ]]></description>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "The Very Hungry City: The California State Water Project and Central Arizona Project"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[While Iâve always been aware of the tenuous water situation in places like Phoenix and Los Angeles, it was not until I read this article that I became aware just such a massive amount of energy and resources are needed to deliver water to large metropolitan areas that would otherwise be inhospitable.  Descriptions of the colossal infrastructure needed to keep these areas afloat should call into question why these cities were encouraged and allowed to develop in the first place.  If we are truly entering an age where sustainable and ecological design matter, a complete reevaluation of the design of buildings is not enough.  Growth policies and the planning principles that made cities such as Phoenix and Los Angeles possible need immediate reexamination.  While LEED buildings are wonderful, no amount of structures can remedy the problem of a city simply existing where the resources and environment clearly cannot support.  ]]></description>
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	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/the-very-hungry-city/32058/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2012-02-09T11:35:22-05:00</dc:date>
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	<title><![CDATA[Responding to "The Very Hungry City: The California State Water Project and Central Arizona Project"]]></title>
	<description><![CDATA[And possibly of interest is the weekly use in Melbourne, Australia of 46 Gallons/day last week. And, no,  we are not on restrictions due to drought]]></description>
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	<link>http://places.designobserver.com/feature/the-very-hungry-city/32058/#comments</link>
	<dc:date>2012-01-29T20:41:38-05:00</dc:date>
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